Jay-Z might be one of the coolest cats on the planet, but longtime collaborator Pharrell thinks that presidential swagger has one-up on the hip-hop icon. In a new interview, the N.E.R.D. frontman, who took a trip to the White House this past May, spoke on how running a country makes you king of the cool kids.

“Yeah, he’s cool as shit. I don’t know who’s cooler, him or Jay,” the super-producer told Rollacoaster magazine, later giving the edge to the Commander-in-Chief. “Yeah, they’re both cool. Obama might be a little bit cooler. Sorry Jay.”

Skateboard P also extended the cool branch to Janelle Monáe, with whom he toured as openers this past summer for Erykah Badu. “I like Janelle Monáe,” he exclaimed. “She’s a genius. She’s incredible.”