300 Entertainment founder Lyor Cohen is trying to get Young Thug to follow his lead. Their relationship was the focus of CNBC’s “Follow the Leader” episode that aired Wednesday (Apr. 13), and clips from their interactions are now online.

In one of the more compelling back-and-forths, the famed music executive tries to convince Thugga to do more interviews. “I understand that you’re shy,” he tells his label’s superstar (via Billboard). “You don’t like doing it. But the fact of the matter is, your fans actually want to hear from you.”

The conversation apparently took place prior to the release of Slime Season 3. The project would go on to debut at No. 3 on Billboard’s Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums chart with 22,000 units.

“Follow the Leader” was shot in better times for Cohen, who was hospitalized after suffering a pulmonary embolism on Saturday. The mogul reportedly chronicled his seizures on Snapchat and later said he was recovering.

“It would take much more to kill me than a submassive pulmomary embolism,” he said in a Snap story. “If it wasn’t for my son, and my best friend Norm, I would have been a goner…There’s actually nothing I could do. Anybody could get it. It’s a little blood clot that goes right up the body into the lungs and heart.”

300 also offered this statement on Cohen’s health: “[Cohen] is currently being treated and in stable condition at a local hospital. He is expected to make a full recovery and will be back in action very soon. Lyor, his family, and all at 300 Entertainment would like to thank everyone for their continued love and support.”